>> it's a lot more challenging. and it's 1500 miles off the coast of australia, perth, australia. th it could take four hours just to get to this area and then you can spend a couple of hours -- and then you've got to get back depending on the amount of fuel that you have. it's a real challenge for those who are looking. >> there's no ground base that they can work from that isn't a real reach. so this is going to be a challenge. but these guys can do it. >> let me bring fran in for a second. because fran, a lot of people are worried that the malaysians aren't doing everything that they can, that the indonesians are not letting u.s. planes fly through their air space, you really need full cooperation in an international search and rescue operation like this. >> look, wolf, the best news that we have is that the australians, frankly, by pox i