we have private markets. >> reporter: you heard a lot of testimonies trying to talk about the benefits of the obama care law, talk about the fact that women are treated the same as men which they weren't always before, things like that. but clearly they understand that that is being overshadowed. not just by the website problems, but by fear that people's current plans are being dropped and they're not able to get new plans because they can't get on the website or phone to get a new plan. >> clearly the frustration continues. thank you. up next, obama care exchanges are seeing relatively modest enrollment for private insurance, but there is a big surge in medicaid signups for the poor. why that could be a significant problem to the whole program. and kathleen sebelius apologizing for the obama care website problem, but is that enough. we'll have a debate. when we made our commitment to the gulf, bp had two big goals: