we're standing by from a statement from deborah hersman from the national transportation safety board. today they had a chance to interview the pilot who landed that plane. he had very scant experience with the 777 and no experience landing one of those 777s at the san francisco airport, which can be tricky. today federal investigators, they questioned, they interviewed him. we're going to get information from debra hersman on what he had to say. we'll have coverage of that news conference coming up. stand by for that. back to the george zimmerman trial. the jurors are not in the courtroom right now but they're continuing this hearing on whether or not a computerized animation on what happened in the exchange between trayvon martin and george zimmerman should be allowed to be shown as evidence to the jury. you see there rich mantei, one of the prosecutors, he doesn't