jurisdiction. as to whether there are five votes there or not i think that the five justices who joined the windsor opinion put language in that opinion and wrote an opinion that is i think a very strong opinion for gay rights and at least gives us clues as to how they might vote in the future. but it seems that they are not ready to do that right now because they decided to completely steer clear of that question in the hollingsworth case. >> do you think, amy, do you think that we're going to see the court take up same-sex marriage again maybe for nationwide to clarify this? >> i think that's right. the court made very clear in the decision, the windsor case, striking down doma, that it was striking down one provision of doma, about whether or not the federal government has to recognize these same-sex marriages for purposes of benefits and immigration and estate taxes. it made clear it was not addressing section 2 of doma, which provides that states don't have to recognize same-sex marriages that were made legal in other states.