saw in that video, there are going to be times where they and again, she would come back simply don't understand how this with a scenario that this wasn't could have happened. her sons, that this -- these -- they wouldn't have done such a thing. that they were good people. today i see in the people of she really -- you get the sense there, wolf, that there is a west, in your eyes, that what huge amount of pressure and stress going on with the parents at the moment. they just can't comprehend that makes west special isn't going to go away. their son is dead, another one instead of changing who you are, is lying gravely injured in the hospital, that they could be this tragedy has simply revealed responsible for this. they just -- when people put who you've always been. those details to them, they were seen in those videos. she was saying, well, no. the backpack really wasn't like it's the courage of deborah that one. there was another one. suelock who works as a cashier just around the corner from the they were -- they weren't fire station. she said, it's going to be tough involved. she cannot bring herself to for the families, but we're going to rebound because we're accept her sons were involved, wolf. fighters. and that courage will bring west >> is either parent, the father especially, coming back to the back. united states? >> you know, he says he is but it is very confusing. i spoke to him as he was coming