there. he's seeing the protest here, and it's changing him. >> he holds up a mirror to america, "look at yourselves, america." >> he's talking about the war, he's talking about poverty, changing him as an artist in the way that berry gordy is not super happy about. >> initially berry gordy did not want marvin to do what's goin' on. >> motown was supposed to be non-threatening. here you now have marvin gaye making a protest record about the war that could potentially ruin good money. you don't lightly talk about the government. >> ultimately when he agrees to put out what's goin' on, berry tells marvin, "okay, if you're right, i'll learn something.