you call it punk. they might buy it if you call it new wave. >> what's your thoughts on punk rock? >> it's a new wave. by defining it as punk you're automatically putting a boundary on what's possible. >> talking head can was the ultimate. they did spiky music who reflected who they were and reflected the fascinating individual that david burn would ultimately become. >> i wrote a song about urban guerillas and about their daily lives instead of about their politics. >> this area of new wave music is where stars of the 1980s are going to come from. >> what makes the '70s so special is that there's still a sense of naivete, that music