on stage at the first-ever lollapalooza, which was a tremendous thing for my band and i. >> lollapalooza is cool. ♪ >> the idea that you could get these important and popular bands from the underground, like jane's addiction, nine inch nails, soundgarden, hole, red hot chili peppers, and you get them all together, it felt like a really new idea. >> by the mid-'90s it's already been parodied by "the simpsons." >> wow, it's like woodstock, only with advertisements everywhere and tons of security guards. >> it is in the american lexicon. >> the commercial culture has co-opted the counterculture. >> the honeymoon's over. now we're getting down to real commerce. and there's a certain kind of disillusionment going on. >> since i got everything i wanted i could put a zero after the number of record sales i've had. i could play 200,000-seat halls instead of 2,000-seat halls, and i could go on mtv 1,000 times a