all of us as human beings want to thank where fair? people and that we're not going to be judgmental and we're going to sit in the room and listen with an open mind but again, we're all human and for those of us who've watched you don't donald trump on television. and i certainly been in the room with him many times through my experience it's hard to separate that from the man sitting at the defense table who looks really tired and grumpy right now. so those preconceived notions, those opinions, even though jurors have sworn that they can put them aside and make a judgment. they always come in. it's just human nature yeah. >> and that's that's a challenge for lawyers on both sides. jeremy, hang with me. we've got much more to get to as we go forward, as i noted, are looking at the camera in the hallway, former president departs. donald trump has also continued to rail against a gag order in this case, he claims that it violates his free speech rights are going to get into the validity of that claim