meeting of foreign ministers saying today, this kind of thing, the massing of russian troops, the exercise of military muscle to achieve political ends, the causing of stability of the sort mentioned in matthew's exclusive intelligence report there is now part of the new normal. for that reason, looking into the future, he is suggesting that whatever else comes out of this, nato will be reinforcing its eastern flank. >> all right. sam kiley, thank you so much. joining us to discuss, bob menendez of new jersey, the chairman of the senate foreign relations committee. thank you for being here. they believe the current troop level is not enough for a full-scale invasion. do you agree? >> well, i respect the analysis of our intelligence and military and they believe it is sufficient for a full-scale invasion. we agree that there are about