as more of a russian ally than a western ally by many in eastern europe and kyiv. what is your response? >> absolutely nonsense and all know about it. we are the biggest donator, together with the united states, to ukraine. more than $2 billion we spent since 2014 and we are with the u.s. who is giving more. we are giving money to ukraine via the european union. if we just look at our share. 3.8, which is coming the what i already said. so there is a strict cooperation and support for ukraine for many years, which we are doing and which we will continue to do. >> so you and the foreign minister won't say explicitly that if russia invades ukraine, the nord stream two pipeline is dead. and i've heard you refer to this as a strategic ambiguity. but it got president zelensky so angry today, he wouldn't even