we've heard politicians say over and over again over the years that they're serious about combatting gun violence only for the american people to see little change actually happen in washington. tell any viewers who might be skeptical why they should believe this time is going to be different. >> because most of the time when you hear politicians talk about it, they're only talking about the end of a system where the police are involved or a prosecutor is involved. the unique thing about this proposal and why the biden plan, i think, is the right solution is that it looks at the root cause and it offers different solutions in terms of community violence intervention, substance abuse, mental health, after school programs, summer job programs, using actual community violence interrupters that will actually help diffuse problems before they ever happen. and president biden has never been shy about saying that he thinks we need more police in our communities, but they should be out of their cars. they should be a part of the community.