there the whole time. our job is to help ukraine deter russia. make sure that russia understands there will be some really costly, some really costly consequences. whether it is kinetic, troops dying, and we should be doing that in conjunction with ukraine. >> you served in war. it is not an abstraction to you. when you hear that 8,500 service members are on stand by, possibly heading to eastern europe and who knows where else, do you think that's an appropriate decision from president biden to put them to stand by? >> i think it is important. i've done some of those in my younger days. more importantly, we're doing it not to just deter russia but to really bring confidence on our allies. especially on the eastern front. they're severely worried about what will happen.