conversations. >> absolutely. >> it was incredibly smart. congressman kennedy, another text. the president's son donald junior writes to meadows, he's got to condemn this shit asap. the capitol police tweet is not enough? meadows writes back. i'm pushing it hard. i agree. we need an oval office address. he has to lead now. it's gone too far and gotten out of hand. how does this fit in with the investigation, do you think? >> well, look, jake, the idea that you have, as congresswoman love has said, you have a public cover-up at the highest degree here while private acknowledgment of how dangerous this was, including from president trump's own son. there is no way to get around the fact that people at the highest levels of the white house knew -- had some inkling how severe and how dangerous this moment was. so then to say nothing to see here? or what happened was just a