conversations have been really important and the president's work with the senators and then with our caucus in the house have been really, really critical for us to be able to move forward. we're feeling good. >> did you agree to a bottom line number for the reconciliation package? what would you say to those who look at the fact you're having separate meetings with the president's own moderates to say how can there be real progress if you're not -- >> i want to remind everybody that the house has a build back better act that had the vast majority of us, progressive, moderate, whatever you want to call us, all agreed to. and so we really are talking about just a couple of people that were not there, and we understand that the margins are slim. so we need to get there. so i think it's fine for the president to have smaller meetings with different groupings of people. i think that's a good thing. it doesn't mean we're not all talking to each other separately as well. so i think we're in a good