and blue pens around live ballots and has continued to be an issue throughout this entire exercise. we have repeatedly said, you know, anyone who knows what they're doing around elections does not want to have a device that can mark a ballot in a way that can potentially alter that ballot. they're continuing to ignore that and continuing to do this. >> the republican governor who has supported trump, doug ducey, has stood by the results that went to biden and maricop county results that went to biden but most of the election officials in maricopa county are republican and have stood by the results and do not agree with this bogus audit. the people running the audit are not government employees. they can come out, say whatever they want. they can claim they found m massive voter fraud. they can check with black ink the box. you've even suggested that you think they might cook the books. if they ultimately do that, how do you fight back? >> well, you know, we've been --