schultz of florida. good to have with us today. >> good to be with you. >> he said he didn't direct his attorney rudy giuliani to push ukraine for an investigation. are you concerned the president could be making rudy giuliani the fall guy here? >> you know, watching rudy giuliani and donald trump contradict themselves, contradict one another with all of the evidence that is very clear that they did coordinate and that the president did direct giuliani is like watching a snake eat itself. i listen to hours upon hours of depositions where we had witnesses tell us that they were aware that there was direction by the president to rudy giuliani engage in pushing the ukrainians to launch investigations in exchange for the release of the foreign aid. it happened with witnesses