finding the time of day. we find jo time for jobs, hobbies, responsibilities. this has to be one of the things to tend do. >> book is great. it's about more than just running, it's about dedication, hard work. what do you say to people inspired by you but say there's no way they could do what you do? >> i say i was exactly like you for a long, long time. when you have small children, it's a hard thing to do because they're just a lot of demands. maybe you can't take on long, long races or only do them in short bites. a big part is about time management and recognizing the time you really have if you put aside all of the things that we normally waste time on. slide those aside, you have a lot of time for doing many things that may be valuable, whether running or something else. >> you were able to combine love of running with love of family. you tackled this together with your daughter, who was in her freshman year of college at the time. how did that shared interest