thing. >> right. >> it is your orientation. do you come at it from the perspective of people out in the country who are very deeply concerned about this economic issue, very disappointed in the politics of washington and are you an agent for change? and i think that's what people want to convey. it's just some are more convincing at it than others. >> rick santorum though is the living, breathing example of throw out the rule book and this is a very different election. there's something in the water we have disruptive forces in our politics. he won 12 states last time. now, again, part of that was being the guy still standing the anti-romney in the election. but the republican party's history has been if you run once, come back a second time you're at least afforded more respect. here's a guy maybe he wasn't going to be the front runner, but he won 12 states and he's an asterisk in the polls. and all of these candidates are wrestling with how can i say i'm the outsider when i was an insider or am an insider? how can i make the case -- the key the governors tonight, kasich, christie, bush