2011. and i think that's largely because everyone looked at the technical judgments made and said, it's a dangerous toxic waste dump. it is not weapon storage. >> so just quickly yes or no, there's nothing the u.s. should be doing about this now? >> i'm not sure. i mean, i'm not with current intelligence. i can imagine some things you might do, cluster munitions for example that would discourage even more i.c.e. soldiers from going around. but basically, i'm not award about this. there are other things -- you have to realize, i.c.e. sees a large amount of current u.s. military equipment that we had given to the iraqi military when they abandoned mosul and fled towards baghdad. so they actually have some very good weapons in their hands now, and the chemical weapons are really not military weapons. >> david kay, that's why we brought you in. thank you for clearing this up. i know a lot of people were