much of what's going on right now. >> yes. he's almost single-handedly responsible for this. i would say the whole republican party has been cruz-ified at this point. he's losing clout here, among his colleagues here. he's done terrible things to his party and to his cause. but he's going to be a hero. it's a heroic failure now and i think his reputation with the tea party is better than ever. >> gloria, we've interviewed one of the leading religious conservative activists who said ted cruz is the leader of the republican party right now. >> i think there are a couple republican parties. he is the leader of one wing of the republican party but i don't even know if you call it wings anymore, because i just think there are separate parties. you have disdain for the republican leadership, you say they're in retreat. they're saying we tried it your way but we actually have to pass this debt ceiling and we have to keep the government running. i don't see any reconciliation between these two sides. >> to be continued. thank you all so much for being