right now. the people in that meeting is pretty significant if bolton's account is true. >> if it's true, correct. that's an important "if." this is why, you know, house -- i know the president has said that the house didn't call bolton. it is true that they didn't take him to court over it, and then bolton said he would comply with a subpoena from the senate. this is why people who want witnesses are arguing it would be important to get bolton under oath. we should also note that the white house has argued that bolton, who was often at odds with mick mulvaney and with secretary of state mike pompeo, that bolton himself, you know, was a disgruntled employee on bad terms and had an ax to grind, which is why the importance of being under oath matters. but there are all kinds of complications of bolton testifying. it's not just the question of