of the things that has really frustrated democrats, and privately some republicans, that if bolton does want to say something, he probably can at this point even as the white house is protesting some of the information in his manuscript is classified. >> indeed, he could call in just the way you did. great reporting, maggie. >> i'm just trying to show how easy it is. >> maggie, thank you for doing excellent reporting. the second paragraph in your article, maggie, says the president gave the instruction to bolton, according to bolton's manuscript, in an oval office meeting in early may that included -- this is interesting who was in that meeting according to bolton. mick mulvaney, the president's personal lawyer rudy giuliani, and the white house lawyer pat cipollone. mulvaney said whenever giuliani was there, he would walk away because he didn't want to get involved in attorney/client privilege. he's leading the legal defense