dana, before we get to the comments from former chief of staff john kelly, senator lisa murkowski, republican of alaska, one of the possible votes in favor of more witnesses, just made an interesting remark about bolton. what did she have to say? >> she said the following. she said, quote, i think bolton probably has something to offer us. that is murkowski talking to some of our colleagues in the hallways here. she's making her way to the senate chamber. that is significant because there has been a lot of to-ing and fro-ing about witnesses in general, about bolton. this is the furthest she has leaned into the notion of voting yes to call john bolton as a witness, because as we've been talking about, it would be and will be a vote to make that happen. and, jake, the fact this is coming on the backdrop of the president's former chief of staff saying not just that he believes john bolton but he thinks john bolton should testify is interesting, because