want to get to a destination. the rivers were a little hairy, but no, i wouldn't call it scary. >> can you ask your mom what it was like for her? >> what was it like for you, mom? >> oh, exhausting. and it was scary. we had some situations that we're glad we got through, glad we survived it. >> and eric, for people who have not been through something like this, explain what it's like. how quickly the water starts to rise. >> oh, well, our neighbors who traveled with us on the way out, the dugan s, jonathan came up about 11:00 that night and said that they were worried their house was lower than where we are. they were worried. and so we of course invited them to come up whenever they needed to.