place. the reason that works for joe biden is there was an electoral path for him. there was a more diverse electorate in nevada and south carolina. that was from a campaign perspective. that was always the strategy that we knew we were not going to do as well in the first two states. so we needed to get to nevada and south carolina. so the talent is the field. this field, there isn't a path for a ron desantis or i would argue even a nikki haley, obviously bakari knows her well from serving with him. >> i just said she's formidable. >> no question. but a weak showing in iowa, there's not a strategic path for these guys. donald trump has gone wire-to-wire with all of the key coalitions within the republican party that you need to become the republican nominee. so a fourth place finish, a third place finish in iowa for these guys when they don't really have a path in these other states, won't have the same path.