she could potentially come in second place in iowa, move on to new hampshire. it's possible she could win, which would put her in a much better position when she moves into south carolina. >> is that an endorsement? would you like her to get the nomination? >> you know, i've been saying since last spring when i made the decision not to run, that i really did not want to see a multicar pileup that would just enable donald trump. i think we want to have the strongest possible nominee in november. polls show that is nikki haley, that she's 17 points ahead of joe biden. it's a toss-up with trump and biden, and desantis is losing. so yes, i think it's time for the party to get behind nikki haley. chris christie dropped out of the race in new hampshire. i appreciate his effort. but i believe that nikki haley is the strongest chance for us to put forth our best possible candidate for november. >> david axelrod, first, i want to note that this is the 15th