momentum going not -- not that he'll win new hampshire but move past new hampshire to south carolina. >> the pollster at the table, i would like you to weigh in. nikki haley probably saw the poll and thought awesome i'm in second place and you dive into the cross tabs as david points out, then enthusiasm is not there compared to others. >> and that is going to create a big problem because it is not just iowa that you have to win over republicans to win the republican primary, but a lot these other states. new hampshire may well be the kind of aberration on this pathway to the nomination. >> a lot of independents vote in new hampshire. >> that's right. so for somebody like nikki haley, she need this is boost to prove she's not just a one-state candidate who only wins in places with a lot of independents and moderates. so it is concerning the numbers underneath the surface. with that said, it doesn't seem likely to me that ron desantis is going to win the iowa caucus. so i don't know what his path