application to all international courts and, yes, vladimir putin together with everyone, every russian that is responsible for it, will have to end up in jail for this war crimes. so, yes, he has nothing to do to lead a state if russia would like to be a democratic or even a civilized state. >> so you're saying that there should be regime change? >> well, you know, it's clear to us that russia is a terrorist state led by a war criminal and we are working day and night and fighting fiercely to defend our land and to defend our democracy and everyone should be brought to justice. so i think it will be difficult to run a state from the hague. >> madam ambassador, russian military officials are starting to signal a potential shift in strategy focusing on crimea and the two regions of the donbas. are there any circumstances in