baker "the breach", you'll see all about it and in 1998 -- sold his vote and saying a vote for me is against impeaching bill clinton and telling the truth is a refreshing thing and what mcconnell said is true and not a one of them doesn't know how they are going to vote right now. >> but there is a difference -- because actually in the clinton process tim lott and tom dashel made a point of not talking to the white house -- hold on -- >> he staffed but he did not -- >> however he and trent lott got together and decided what are the rules and make sure this isn't a sham trial and mitch mcconnell has a different role in this proceeding than the other senators. he's supposed to be the jury foreman. if i were on trial and i knew that the jury foreman. if i were on trial -- >> why won't chuck schumer accept the clinton rules that they're throwing out now.