include parts of the mueller report. where do you stand? >> well, i think we will get into that. we haven't started drafting articles and i don't think we will until after the hearing. >> what should they be? should they be broader? >> i think the evidence presented to us by the intelligence committee really focuses on the ukraine matter. as well as the obstruction. so i'm sure that will be -- if we do articles and that is not a foregone conclusion, that is the central thrust, i would assume. >> you don't think it is a foregone conclusion. you said the evidence was there from the summary transcript of the july 25th phone call. >> well, here is the question. it is in the constitution treason, bribery, or other high crimes and misdemeanors, that is the cause for impeachment.