until you secure the border. why? because right now when we deport someone, they often come back in two or three days. you have to patch the hole in a sinking boat first. if you just start bailing and never fix the hole, it doesn't work. >> i don't understand the people living in the shadows, operating under the radar, at least 11 million of them, will you have a force that goes door to door, rounds them up, and deports them? >> we have an enforcement force. it's called border patrol. it's called immigration and customs enforcement. i.c.e. is not. they're both law enforcement. listen, this shouldn't be an issue of debate. you know, i'm reminded of some years ago sonny bono was asked your view on illegal immigration. he said, it's illegal, isn't it? the question of what to do with people here illegally. the president -- the constitution answers this. the president says that the