we get a certain number of people and a certain number of specific kind of person young, healthy, middle class to sign up for the health care law. >> this is the problem with this. this is a problem with this story. you go back to a couple years and you heard speaker boehner talking about horrendous rollout of a program and he is talking about prescription drugs. these don't necessarily roll out well. this is the problem with the story. this is a process sorry. this is about the process. you're missing the forest for the trees. it's not about a process. >> it's about discouraging people. >> this is what is different from medicare part b. the prescription drug benefit. the design of this system is built around getting a certain number of people to use the website and sign up. so the rollout wouldn't matter if it was -- >> are you telling me that we can't fix a website? are you telling me -- >> i'm not the one telling you that. >> the problem is not the website. yes, we have a problem trying to get people enrolled.