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nuclear program underway and the president announces cheerfully the war's going to end because i'm not happy being a war president. >> well, the question is whether that is -- those are threats and tho one is denying those are real threats, the question is whether they fall under the rubric of war. i found this fascinating in a couple respects. as you say, there were fewer specifics of change than there were a desire to set a new -- >> direction kind of thing. >> -- mindset. it felt to me a speech where he's beginning to count back from the end of his presidency. the first time you see that mindset where he's thinking what is the architecture i want to leave behind. and in another way it's kind of striking historically when we've added power to the national security apparatus, we don't usually retrench it after. it kind of creates and grows longer. this is a speech where he said i want to move in the direction of withdrawing some of the power that the presidency has been afforded post-9/11. >> he didn't say how or when or

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