to just let it rip and say the most racist bigoted backwards kind of things about this lovely couple. and i agree with general mills, there are a lot of couples that look that way. >> general mills is in the business of selling cherrios. do you think they did that to get that extra bit of publicity? >> it's possible. a lot of people are talking about. but in the end, if you're a little kid and you love cherrios, you know how many times you see kids having tell ter tantrums in the cereal aisle. i can't imagine a family saying we're not buying them because they have a white mother and black father. i think in the end it will keep selling. >> thank you so much. great to talk to you. "starting point" back in a moment. bly anyone else. we've had this farm for 30 years. we raise black and red angus cattle. we also produce natural gas. that's how we make our living and that's how we can pass the land and water back to future generations.