things but this really does seem extreme. >> it is extreme but the thing that people need to understand is there's research that came out just this last year actually that talks about young people's experience in sports, and that 75% of young people in sport experience psychologically harmful behavior. now i'm not suggesting that in sport you shouldn't have to take adversity. i'm not suggesting that you shouldn't have to take criticism or that you shouldn't have to deal with difficult times or even occasionally a coach that loses his mind. just for one second. but what i'm talking about is a systematic, we've got the systematic ideal in sport where sport is not subject to the rules of the rest of society. i often tell parents who are watching their son or daughter be abused on a sideline verbally, usually, hopefully, if that was a french teacher, if that was a math teacher in your kid's school, would you allow that kind of behavior? >> no, never. >> so should he be fired? >> oh, it's character building. >> we know he was suspended -- >> exactly, exactly right. >> should he be fired?