live underplayed how crazy that december 18th meeting was". how was it underplayed? maggie haberman: hutchinson: because donald trump faded into the background as this was all being described. one of the ways in which donald trump has escaped a lot of accountability over time is he gets people fighting with each other, and that's what people focus on. he considered extreme, really unprecedented actions. now he didn't take them, but he was unwilling to foreclose options until the last possible second no matter how extreme and potentially dangerous they were. jake tapper: i remember talking to you after that meeting and you were shaking. maggie haberman: hutchinson: i was. and it was frankly-- it took a little bit to process exactly what had happened, but i remember getting a text from a senior republican senate advisor asking me if there was going to be an issue in terms