i don't sound like that. that is so not true. that is so not -- that is so not -- oh, shut up. >> matthew perry. yeah. you really wanted him. >> he was the first person we offered chandler to. he was doing another show called "l.a.x. 2194". >> sci-fi sitcom lax 2194. >> it's about baggage handlers in the year 2194. i sorted out aliens' luggage. >> that is not a winning title. >> no, it's not. but that was in first position. >> that happens when you find the talent that you think is perfect for a role and you'll take the chance the other show will fail and they'll become available. >> we were a little nervous but we saw a million people. even made an offer to someone else. >> who? >> no. >> the 25th anniversary. now the truth can be told. >> he is a lovely actor named