they're just trying to scare you. little did i know. >> little did loretta know that according to john rams, a plan to kill shirley was already being hatched. did he tell you that he wanted to kill shirley reine? >> he had a plan and everything. he wanted me to shoot shirley. go in her house and shoot her for him. >> john insists that he never agreed to do it. but that todd was determined to make it happen with or without him. >> he said he wanted it to look like a mob hit. i am just listening to this guy. >> did you warn authorities after talking to todd? >> yeah, absolutely i did. >> two years before shirley was killed, john says he had a secret meeting with state and federal law enforcement to warn them that shirley's life was in grave danger. when it came up that todd reine wants to kill shirley reine, the