arrested for defying that curfew. former fbi assistant director joins me here. tom? >> if i can added to that, the police actually hate this, because the curfew violation, even though it's something so rare, it's also something very minor, and any time they get put in a situation of having to take somebody into custody, bad things can happen. one of these individuals going to the pavement could twist his neck and die and now you have a police officer accused of excessive force all over again. they don't want to have to arrest people that are doing a violation like this. >> as we see with the guy who appears to be overcome from something, pepper spray or -- >> pepper spray is nasty stuff. it bothers you a lot. but just the idea of an officer. you don't want to have to put your hands on people for minor charges because bad things can happen. >> ryan, are there arrests happening where you are? >> yes, there are arrests happening. dozens of them. in fact, we are standing here on the back end.