area of the ocean. is it in the ocean? >> i'm not certain about that. i have never had an answer to where the plane was the last time we knew about the whereabouts and the heading it took when it left there. >> he is saying they should look further north. i'm not sure about you, les, but are we 0 in consensus that we are not even -- we may not even be in the right search area? >> i think -- i certainly feel that way. >> les? >> yeah, don, i'd like to think there are greater minds than i am that at least we're calculating this appropriately. my question is, yeah, i'm kind of with mikey with reference to moving the search area north because of my theory that the 12,000 foot altitude is still in play it may mean lesser distance. i'm leaning that wachl i'm not there on that part of that