extremes, they are saying opposite. they are telling mccarthy, do not give up. >> when you are looking at mccarthy's leadership team, it is not centrist team, and you are looking will at people pretty much for the right, and you could argue to the right -- >> and now, let's listen in. >> jim jordan. >> mccarthy. just keeping an eye, okay, jordan voted for mccarthy. >> so, how long can mccarthy keep the hey, it's over, and i don't know what the answer is. i am not sure anyone does because any one of them i think could be that person to go to him and it may not be them who has their name put up in a nomination but how they decide that i think could determine how the rest of this --