appropriate information to do our jobs in a manner to get passengers from point a to b safely. >> we interviewed numerous people that had flown with jeff and jim prior to the accident, in fact, including check airmen, or individuals that grade them and rate their abilities. and what we found across the board was terms like professionalism, great guys, very standard, highly competent was one that i heard. it was the same thing for every single person we interviewed. we heard nothing negative at all. >> going up, because i have this, i -- unlike my brother's house that didn't have the railings, we try to go down and i fell down. so i have this. i'm not going any place. from here down, it's practically nil. this leg always feels so good. i'm playing with you, because no leg. because the pain medicine has kicked in, i don't feel the pain. when i push down, all my back muscles are being used. that's --