Thousands of unwilling undocumented immigrants redirected his states latest d. C. Busloads from Union Station to the naval observatory, which happens to be the residence of Vice President harris. That the migrants were not forced to get on these buses and planes, they were apparently asked and consented and that they were fed did not stop critics from calling the stunt inh inhumane. You might say did they know where they were going . Did they did where they were going when they first came into the country . As to the question of whether these relocations are fair, this year an estimated record 2 million undocumented migrants will cross the border seeking asylum. To date texas has sent 11,000 immigrants all of them will to new york, d. C. And chicago and arizona has sent 1800 plus to new york, new jersey and interestingly to florida. Desantis point is that its easy to declare yourself a Sanctuary State or city when youre thousands of miles from the border. U a but if you talk the talk, dont you have a heightened obligation to welcome and care for migrants. Heres how Texas Governor abbott explained it when he first transported migrants to d. C. In april. He said it would enable the administration to, quote, more immediately meet the needs of the people they are allowing to cross our border, adding that texas should not have to bear the burden of the Biden Administrations failure to secure our border. Arizona and texas are, of course, border states. But why is the governor of florida getting involved . And why did he pick Marthas Vineyard . To define the word sanctuary refers to municipalities that dont allow local Law Enforcement to cooperate with federal Immigration Enforcement to shield the local community of undocumented immigrants from deportation. Besides counties and cities, there are currently 11 Sanctuary States plus d. C. And while massachusetts doesnt have a law on the books, its effectively been considered one since 2017 when the state Supreme Court ruled that someone cant be arrested on suspicion of being in the u. S. Illegally if not facing criminal charges. Supporters believe the Sanctuary Designation allows those already here to feel safer in situations like calling 911 or going to a hospital without fear that it will get them deported. Detractors believe that the Sanctuary Cities make the United States more inviting for immigrants to enter without documentation and often use the phrase to suggest that such municipalities welcome undocumented immigrants. It turns out the Desantis First voiced the idea of Revenge Shipping Migrants back in november of 2021, months before abbott. Desantis accused the Biden Administration of secretly flying migrants from the u. S. mexico border to his state in the dead of night without notice. Though some disputed the secrecy aspect, the Florida Department of Law Enforcement did provide a list revealing more than 70 flights between late april and early october believed to be organized by Hhs To Transport migrants to jacksonville, many of them originating in texas. At the time, desantis threatened to send them to delaware, bidens home state, but delaware is not a Sanctuary State and that threat has not yet materialized. Desantis could have sent this weeks planes to boston but that wouldnt have got him nearly the attention marthas vip yard did. At a Press Conference he kourngted accusations that the migrants had gone against their will or were not told where they were going. The folks that were contracted, not only do they give them a release form to sign, they give them a packet. In that packet included a map of Marthas Vineyard. It was obvious thats where they were going. I would send back to mexico or back to the home country, but here we are doing it voluntarily. Attorneys for some of the migrants have contended thats just not the case. Arrived last night make it clear that they were lied to again and again. And fraudulently induced to board the planes. They were told there was a surprise present for them and that there would be jobs and housing waiting for them when they arrived. At the same time, an msnbc reporter on the ground found migrants pretty happy to be there. I can tell you they are not angry at ron desantis, they are actually thanking him for having brought them to Marthas Vineyard where they were very well received. But other people, well, theyre saying theyre being used as political pawns. They dont resent it for now and they know theyre the lucky ones. By friday, the island m migrants were relocated to Joint Base Cape Cod but it won the news cycle, beating out Lindsey Grahams abortion law, the january 6 committee and Donald Trumps documents. This is what everybody is talking about. This is a trump 2. 0 move. Desantis combative style demonstrates hes very much in sync with the main issues driving republicans and conservatives. Gallup polling earlier this year showed 87 of republicans were dissatisfied with the levelism gr level of immigration into the country. Heres what Charlie Crist told alisyn camerota. Listen, were not even a border state. Were surrounded by water. The only borders we have are with alabama and georgia. So to say that were overwhelmed in florida is ridiculous. Texas may have an issue. It is absurd, its a political stunt. Hes trying to create theater. Not only is desantis up for reelection this year, hes a leading hopeful for the 2024 president ial nomination. If theres any doubt this is what this is all about, he also said this at his Press Conference. All those people in d. C. And new york were beating their chest when trump was president saying they were so proud to be sanctuary jurisdictions, saying how bad it was to have a secure border. The minute even a small fraction of what those border towns deal with every day is brought to their front door, they all of a sudden go berserk. It just shows you their Virtue Signaling is a fraud. Everybody has got a political position on this. There is so much passion on both sides. But how does this play politically for desantis and his larger political ambitions . Is it a stunt . Of course it is. Are these migrants being used as pawns . Of course they are. But lets keep in mind that they provided written consent, according to desantis, before being transported. Theyre probably doing better than the 1 million others allowed to enter the United States by the Biden Administration pending their asylum claims. Weve got a problem with porous borders, and Vice PresidentKamala Harris seems to be the only person who believes the border is secure. I want to know what you think. Go to my website at smerconish. Com and vote on this weeks Poll Question. Here it is, is Governor Desantis sending meeg igrants to Martha Vineyard a petty stunt or a Public Service. Joining me is gary fineout who previously worked in the Tallahassee Bureau of the associated press. Congressman, first to you. Governors desantis and ducey and abbott, they say theyre pointing out hypocrisy in faraway areas where lawmakers have no skin in the game. Do those governors have a point . Look, we know exactly what theyre doing. Theyre doing this to get publicity, and it is working. But i also understand the frustration that weve been feeling down here along the border. By the way, they might send two buses to washington, d. C. , they might send two buses to new york. I want you to know that in laredo every day we sent out 26 buses. Either by i. C. E. Or ngos to go to cities in the state of texas or even go outside the state of texas to some of those cities. We send out 26 buses a day of the and that doesnt include laredo is one out of the nine Border Patrol sectors. So weve been feeling this frustration for a long time. I did notice that the mayor of d. C. Made a comment yesterday that washington, d. C. , was not a border town and we dont have the infrastructure, they dont have the infrastructure. We have some i have some of the poorest counties in the whole country, and for somebody to say that we have the infrastructure, we dont have the ngos Strong Enough to hands everything. Thats why were sending these folks outside of laredo and the border town. So its interesting. And some of us, and ill say one last point, the city of laredo, this is a democratic area, a year ago sent out buses because they were releasing migrants in the streets of laredo. So the city of laredo started sending the buses over to dallas and houston. The houston mayor called up and said, whoa, whoa, you cant send them over to us. So the city of laredo has been doing this has done this for at least a year or two. On the subject of board are security, heres what the Vice President said on Meet The Press last weekend. Roll it. The border is secure, but we also have a broken Immigration System and in particular over the last four years before we came in and it needs to be fixed. We have a secure border in that that is a priority for any nation, including ours and our administration. Congressman, thats just not true, right . Youre on the front line. Youve spent your whole life in laredo. The border is not secure, is it . The border is not secure, with all due respect to the vp. This look, we get thousands of people along the border, from 6,000 to 8,000 people a day. Theyre releasing people, and we can send you pictures and videos of whats happened in del reo, the valley, el paso and other places. People are coming in. We have 1. 7 Million People that were encountered last year. Were going to have 2 or maybe 2. 2 by the end of this fiscal year in about two more weeks. Thats almost 4 Million People. That doesnt even include the getaways. Those are the people that Border Patrol has a good idea evaded them. So youre talking about almost 4 plus, maybe 4. 4 million individuals in two years. If you call that secure, i dont know what secure is. Congressman cuellar, thank you for your time. We appreciate it. Thank you so much. Now to gary fineout. He writes politicos florida playbook where his latest edition is titled questions, confusion and fallout follow desantis migrant transport. Gary, thanks for being here. Desantis governs as a guy representing a ruby red state, but florida isnt, recight . Every four years florida is purple. So how does this play at home in the midst of a Reelection Campaign . Well, i think that desantis and his supporters are would tell you that they dont think florida is a purple state anymore and that they are out to prove it this november and that basically if you look at the trends and demographic and Voter Registration and basically the fact that donald trump won the state in 2020, they would take the position that, no, the state is becoming more republican. And look, the way it looks from here and on the ground in florida, the Desantis Campaign pretty much thinks that they have this election pretty wrapped up. You can tell i mean you had Crist On And A Quote In The First segment. He doesnt have anywhere near the resources. He was actually dark on television for three weeks following his primary win in late august. So while im not saying that they arent going to campaign veg vigorously between now and november, they have clearly put together an apparatus that takes the position that its not just that they will win in november, the question is by how much. Gary, is this really an issue for florida . Is the Migrant Issue really top of mind as a problem for floridians or has desantis injected himself into a National Issue and seized control of it along with ducey in arizona and abbott in texas, who really are on the front line . Well, there have been some polls of late that have kind of looked at the issues and what people think are most incorporate here in florida. Immigration is not a top issue. There are other issues that are more pressing, including inflation and The Cost Of Living and things of that naeture. But you also look at those polls nationally and immigration is a top issue especially in republican voters. Florida is not a border state. Immigration is not something that gets a tremendous amount of attention. But it is an issue that is very important, especially for republican primary voters, especially to those voters who may be Casting Ballots in 2024 for somebody other than donald trump. Do you think that abbott and desantis are coordinating . Ive got this image of the two of them looking at a map of the country and deciding whats going to be next, Beverly Hills or aspen . Well, in regards to the flights to Marthas Vineyard, governor abbotts office said that they were not directly involved in that operation. Now, what is true is that they have been in contact and in touch and basically last year florida sent Law Enforcement to the border to help out texas at that point in time. And so there has been communication on this issue. They have both been highly critical of the Biden Administration. But in terms of the flights this week, the Abbott Administration says, no, we werent involved. Theres no way, final thought, theres no way this sits well with trump. Im sure that trump approves of the underlying action, but the fact that its not his conduct and that its desantis and that desantis star continues to ascend among republicans has got to really bother him. Your thought . Well, i dont have any direct insights into the mind of donald trump. Neither do i. What i would tell you is what i would tell you is that when it comes to what i have been able to pick up from the Desantis Camp basically is donald trump has not made a final decision or not announced a final decision. Maybe he has made a final decision, about what hes going to do in 2024. I think there is plenty of evidence that the desantis people are positioning themselves regarding 2024, especially if trump does not run. If trump doesnt run, its abundantly clear desantis is very well positioned. Desantis and trump, while they are allies an while they communicate occasionally, yeah, there is not desantis is not basically waiting to hear from donald trump before he does something. Hes going to do things on his own and that includes doing things like this that basically in his mind is going to rile up the corporate media, rile up democrats, Rile Up Leftist Activists and hes going to continue to demonstrate that hes the fighter that republicans say they want. He has succeeded. He has succeeded in that regard if nothing else. Dp gary, thank you so much. Thank you. And of course now gavin newsom wants to get in on the action. If you saw the tweet, gavin newsom is saying, hey, desantis, you and i, on cnn. Man, would i love to watch that debate. What are your thoughts . Hit me up on social media. What do we have . Yes, it does reek of stunt on one hand but the Current Administration just saying the border is secure, lets move on, is not cutting it. No more bunker politics. Geno vito, youre absolutely correct. I said is it a stunt . Yes. Is he using these people as pawns . Yes. Although, ill bet theyre better provided for than the other million who have already come into the country seeking asylum. Because youve got to believe the political stakes for abbott god forbid anything happens to somebody on one of those buses for abbott or planes for desantis. That would be political curtains for them. My gut tells me whomever is advancing that visitation, that transport, its like take care of these people at all costs. Give them whatever they need. Make sure youre going to my website at smerconish. Com and answering this weeks Poll Question. Is Governor Desantis sending m migrants to Marthas Vineyard a public stunt or Public Service . Democrats have been happy with polls lately, but the same problems with polls havent been fixed. Ill talk to one of the pollsters with a track record of getting it right. 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He cautions that theres a strong likelihood that the polls were seeing for the midterms are likely inaccurate. The post mortem on the 2020 president ial election by the American Association for Public OpinionResearch Found that National Polling had the worst magnitude of error in 40 years. And the state polls were the worst in at least two decades and they couldnt provide any definitive reason as to why. It was worse than 2016 when pollsters systematically underestimated Donald Trumps strength against hillary clinton. Nate cohn drilled down on the recent polling showing democrats are making gains in the senate and found that the candidates are outrunning expectations in the same places where the polls overestimated mr. Biden in 2020 and mrs. Clinton in 2016. He further notes that if this failure occurs, it will be because most pollsters havent made significant changes to their methodology sense the last cycle. Could it be that this november in contests where research has democrats feeling confident, there will be many socalled 81 foreseen upsets . My next guest has a track record of showing up the traditional poll pollsters. In 2016 they correctly had trump beating clinton in five key swing states, pennsylvania, michigan, wisconsin, florida and North Carolina and accurately predicted the final Electoral College tally. He was the only pollster to predict wins for ron desantis in the governors race and rick scott in the senate race. He joins me now. So is there a hidden republican vote . And if so, why is this such a problem . Are republicans going into hiding when you call them on the phone . You know, absolutely. What we saw in 2016 is kind of a shy republican vote. People were hesitant to admit it. We had to use some vehicles to get around that initial shyness to where they could project and give more hypothetical answer instead of a direct answer. By 2020 it was that republicans just didnt want to participate in polls. And you had to work extra hard. The republicans who did want to participate in 2020 tended to be the smaller group, the never trump republicans, who were excited to participate. So if you werent careful, you could overestimate their proportionality to the republicans in general. So in 2022, what were seeing is im calling these people submerged voters. These are folks that are literally watching what is happening. They have seen what biden has been seeing about maga republicans and reading all the stuff, whether its true or not, a lot of the conspiracy stuff and theyre nervous to stay anything to anyone. Theyre not putting stickers on their cars, not putting signs in their yard, not answering polls and not posting on social media. Its like theyre underwater and theyre not coming up until election day and theyre going to be very difficult. Lets get specific. In a race that i know well here in pennsylvania, the whole country is focused on fetterman against oz, josh shapiro and mastriano. You know, robert, that the conventional wisdom is that the democrats have significant leads in both of those races. For example, fetterman, according to real clear politics average, fetterman over oz by 4. Josh shapiro Over Mastriano by 5. 4. Cbs and yougov say its josh shapiro by 11. And yet you say each of these is a twopoint race. Justify that. Well, four weeks ago, everybody was saying that those races are in double digits. And since then, us, emerson and quinnipiac all had it to four or five. So these races continue to tighten and were on the size thats recognizing that with other credible groups and then there are groups that are not recognizing it. I think its a lot of the methodology, and theyre not working hard enough. Its like in a tough economy, you have to go find the salesmen have to work harder to get to their potential clients. Well, in this kind of election where republicans are hard to find, you have to work extra hard to identify them. If youre not making the extra effort and not just the easy ones who participate, youre going to undercount a lot of people who are really trying to stay submerged. All you have, your sole currency is your reputation and currency. So to somebody who says, oh, cahaly is in the tank for the gop, like theres going to come a wednesday morning for you. It will be november 9, right . And youre either going to be the guy who called it right or didnt. You get the final word. Thats exactly right. I always joke they may say were a gop pollster, but if you think id throw one for the gop, you dont understand my competitive nature. This is something i take very seriously. We want to get it right, and i think we will do better i expect well sexceed all the other groups in 2022. Thank you, robert. Appreciate you being here. Yes, sir. Heres what youre saying on my social media. Before reagan, polling was done to reflect the mood of the voter. Since reagan, polling has been done to influence the mood of the voter. It attempts to sway the voter towards the democrat position. Sampling errors are so common that they seem to be done on purpose. I think thats the perception many have. Heres my two cents for what its worth. Evening that elections today, and i should give a shoutout to rachel because she put this in my head. Elections today really are not so much about persuasion. You know, nobody is out there trying to persuade some independently minded voter, today its all about inflaming passion and pushing turnout. Getting motivation, not persuasion to the top of the priority heap. Take a look at the desantis issue im talking about at the outset of the program with the migrants. I mean it had been abortion, abortion, abortion. Democrats this cycle, they have a hell of an issue. Just look at kansas and new yorks 19. Now republicans have one too and its the whole Migrant Issue. The next 50 or so days will be unbelievable. Go to my website at smerconish. Com this hour. Register for the newsletter and answer this weeks Poll Question. Is Governor Desantis sending migrants to Marthas Vineyard a petty stunt or Public Service. During the primaries, democrats pumped more than 53 into ads for maga republican candidates in nine states, hoping for weaker opponents come november. Is this okay or the ultimate cynical move . Plus, young law professor Ruth Bader Ginsburg wrote a brief for the Supreme Court arguing against discrimination on the basis of sex. Well, a young Court Reporter fell phoned her for an explanation and launched a half century friendship. Nina totenberg is here. Wow, amazing styles and unbelievable prices . Now thats quite the duo. Get two pairirs of Sofia Vergara frames plplus a free exam for 89. 95 for a limited d time at americas best. Not flossing well . 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Donald trump and the maga republicans represent an extremism that threatens the very foundations of our republic. If thats the case, then why is it that in many of this years primary elections, the president s party has been doing all it can to elevate the most maga republican candidates to get them nominated. Democrats spent at least 53 million in nine states trying to amplify the farright candidates often outspending the candidates themselves. That includes a whopping 34. 5 million just in the illinois governor race. All told democrats directly interfered in at least 13 primaries, six gubernatorial races, two Senate Contests and five house campaigns. They succeeded six times, including two New Hampshire races for nominees for senate and congress decided just this past tuesday. Among the candidates the democrats helped to victory, pennsylvania gubernatorial candidate doug mastriano, a key voice in the effort toin the std has been identified in videos in a crowd moving toward the capitol. Maryland gubernatorial nominee dan cox who Chartered Buses to bring supporters to Washington On January 6th and as the insurrection was happening, he tweeted mike pence is a traitor. And in Michigan Democrats spent 400,000 to boost john gibbs for congress. He said there were anomalies in the president ial tally making results, quote, mathematically impossible. In doing so they helped gibbs unseat the more moderate freshman congressman, peter meijer, one of the new congressmen to vote for trumps impeachment. Is that really a worthy goal, to oust one of their allies across the aisle to flip a seat . And what if they dont . Theoretically one can understand why democrats think fringe candidates are less likely to win the general election but thats what they thought about donald trump in 2016. What if they just got played . Look at don bolduc in New Hampshire. The Senate Majority pac affiliated with Chuck Schumer spent 3. 2 million to effectively boost bolduc, a retired general, in the primary to challenge sitting senator Maggie Hassan by attacking his moderate opponent because bolduc had been a trumpian election denier. Listen to how he changed his tune when he was running and days after he secured the nomination. I signed a letter with 120 other generals and admirals saying that trump won the election and dammit, i stand by that. I have come to the election and i want to be definitive on this. The election was not stolen. Was there fraud . Yes. President biden is the legitimate president of this country. Which brings me back to the question if these maga republicans are such a threat to the core of our country, as biden says, then why would democrats want to risk clearing their possible path to power . On Meet The Press last weekend, chuck todd repeatedly asked Kamala Harris, Vice PresidentKamala Harris whether she would condemn the practice of helping get maga republicans nominated. She repeatedly side stepped answering. When you see the Democratic Party and some parts of the Party Funding ads to promote some of these Election Deniers in primaries, it looks like a cynical you know, a little bit cynical. The president went out of his way to say there are good republicans here. Should you leave the good republicans alone in a primary . Is the Democratic Party making a mistake here by you know, those people could win if youre not careful. I mean, lesisten, im not gog to tell people how to run their campaigns. Would you have done this . Would you have done this . Is this in your is this isnt youd be comfortable doing . Im not going to tell people how to run their campaigns, chuck. Well, she wont but i will. You cant have it both ways. It would be one way to elevate a potential opponent because you think their position on guns or abortion or immigration is out of touch. But one issue transcends all others. Without a functioning democracy, theres no debate about any other issue. And the practice of elevating opponents in that category needs to be condemned. Still to come, two of d. C. s powerhouse women, rbg and nprs Nina Totenberg had a friendship that lasted nearly 50 years. It all started with a reporters call to a law professor to explain a brief. Nina is here with her new book dinners with ruth. Answer this weeks Poll Question at smerconish. Com. Is governor Deesantis Spending Meeg rants to Marthas Vineyard a petty stunt or a Public Service . Real good. 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Circuit court of appeals by president jimmy carter and then by President Bill Clinton to the Supreme Court in 1993. She served until her death until fall of 2020, twoyear anniversary, by the way, i think tomorrow. Along the way in 2000, ginsburg officiated at totenbergs second wedding. Their unique friendship is the topic of the brand new book called dinners with ruth, a memoir on the power of friendships. Nina totenberg joins me now. So, nina, the only test she ever failed was for driving. Explain. Well, she used to her place in the Supreme Court garage was next to sandra day oconnor. One day she scratched oconnors car and she had to go tell her that she had done that because she was not a very good parker. Oconnor was not pleased because she had already had her car fixed from the last time ruth had scratched her car. Three fights with cancer, bowel obstructions, shingles. She was so petite and yet such an iron woman. I referenced that she officiated your marriage. What i didnt reference yet is that the night before she was in the hospital and did not tell that to you until the ceremony was over. Yes. And she forbid her husband, marty, to tell me. She wanted it to be my day. And then after the dinner, she said, nina, would you mind if i leave a little early. I had a blockage last night and i was in the hospital. And i said, my god, get out of here. The two of you forged this relationship before either of you were in the National Spotlight. As i read the book, it occurred to me if you had been in the National Spotlight when you first met, probably that relationship would not have blossomed, wouldnt have been able to blaus ossom, true . I think thats probably true. It would have been different anyway. We started when we were young and we were not famous. We had our noses up against the Glass Window Pane of male domination of the professional worlds we lived in. And like my other friends that i write about in this book, Cokie Roberts and linda wortheimer. We were just trying to get a foot in the door, not to break the glass ceiling. We were just trying to get a chance to show we could do these jobs. Youre Nina Totenberg, you broke the Douglas Ginsburg story, you broke the anita hill story. You are the dean of the Supreme Court reporters. How were you able to maintain the boundary lines with this very close friend of yours . You know, its a lot easier with a judge because theyre not supposed to talk about pending cases to anybody. In truth theyre not supposed to talk about them to their spouses. I have no idea if they do or dont. So you really cant ask a judge or a justice about a case thats before that individual justice because you wouldnt have a friend. You have to get to know them as you would other friends, just understanding that there is a core place that if you ask about, they will not be your friends. How close were you . You were so close that after she passed two years ago, her daughter, jane, wanted you to have one of her necklaces and your husband to have one of the oversized paella pans that marty used to love so much. I mean im not joking. That kind of sums it up for me. Thats close. We were very close. In the last year of her life when she really couldnt go anywhere else because she couldnt be sure it was safe because of covid, she came to us almost every saturday night for dinner. And david cooked for her. Hes a wonderful cook. And so we were extremely close. When my late husband died, my first husband died, she would reach out and take care of me at critical moments. So in that sense, like girlfriends, women friends, we were extremely close at the same time that we respected the boundaries of each others professions. And it was one of the great privileges of my life to be her friend. I really enjoyed the book. 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