now, as opposed to doing things on the ground to help people who need help. >> audience for this book are not those that you're criticizing, right? it's the people you're trying to counsel, i'll say, the rest of us, as to how do we respond? do we respond at all? do we respond knowing we might be called a racist for doing so? >> yeah. i think that if you know that you are checking yourself for racism, and you're doing things to help people who will need help, as opposed to the virtue signal that a lot of people are told what they need to do. if you're doing those things i am asking white americans to getting used to being called racist by a certain vocal minority of people who think it's their job to call people names and make people cry in the name of turning the country upside down and making everybody go through this social revolution. we have to get used to calling names and go off and do the work that we do. we can't let that particular person be in charge, because