referendum on trumpism. the torchbearers were trying to forcing the issue. joining me now to discuss is dr. larry sabito, a professional of politics, congratulations, larry, on a 50-year association with uva. i'm told you began when you were age 6. i thought that tony morrison's beloved was the 11th hour intangible in this race. it turns out it's tiki torches. how do you see it? who benefits? >> well, it was ill-advised, let's say that, first of all, very ill-advised. because right now, maybe people outside of charlottesville don't know this, there's a major civil suit unfolding that will probably go on for weeks and weeks where the neo-nazis, the unite the right rally people,