analyze granular detail about life in afghanistan and iraq. things like phone subscriptions and employment. troops and how many we lost. what's the bottom line, did we improve their lives while we were there or not? >> yes, materially very much so. in terms of education, very much so. there's a long way to go. a lot of that will be lost. and of course, the violence in the last ten or 15 years. but in terms of education, health, overall quality of life, overall prosperity, afghanistan became much better over the 20 years. >> okay. let's hope that those positive changes outlast our involvement. michael o'hanlon, thank you for being here. i really appreciate it. >> michael, thanks to you. >> what are your thoughts, tweet me at smerconish. on the facebook bepage. what do we have? twitter getting out of afghanistan not the problem. the nonplan of bind and his