if he's trying to win tell us a bit about the conversation up with mayor pete. >> good morning, michael. thank you so much for having me. mayor pete has -- weaver several conversations, and one on one conversations, in south carolina to meet with black voters. what has actually happened is he called me for advice, and i mean advice about how he was doing in south carolina, and how he could improve his situation. i said to him very clearly, i don't think people generally. i certainly do not have anything against mihm. i think that's frankly a nonissue. let me explains what i mean by that. it's not a secret. everybody knows that the mayor's sexual preference.