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sidewalk sleeping. i know you're familiar with this story, what do you make of it? >> well, it shows you that even liberals in los angeles county are getting tired of the homeless problem, and they want something to be done about it, and what they're trying to do is find a middle way so that they don't enforce the laws everywhere, but they prohibit tent encampments next to schools, next to public parks and a few places like that. >> final time i have to challenge you on, this when you use the word liberal, if this is a progressive problem, give me the conservative solution. i don't care which ideological label it falls under, i just want to know that we can do better than this. >> yes, we can do better than this. part of this has to do with, i mean there are a lot of people on the streets who are mentally ill these days, there has to be some rein, institutionlization those who are roaming the streets and accosting people.

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