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paul without having to say his name. while the other gop contenders are really out there talking about hillary, chris christie is actually managing to talk about issues and the other contenders in i think, a way that is attempting to sort of clear the field and bring him back. >> ellis, with regard to rand paul as he's gotten into this race i have said that he is looking less and less like his father. that is until this week because this week rand paul blamed the gop hawks for the creation of isis. i'm wondering which rand paul are we really going to see as the race heats up? the libertarian champion or someone who feels obliged to attack a more traditional tone to the base? >> you trace the back and forth exactly right. we were expecting rand and we got ron. getting back to my fractions. there is nobody on that side of the equation. now, it's true the base isn't really there either. we don't really know how much of that kind of foreign policy

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